The latest on this hag is her ass-kissing toward the new publisher (her boss) at the Sacramento Bee... She is so pathetic you almost start to feel sorry for her.

I want to point out to anyone who said that your personal information can be found at zabasearch.com - I just had all of my info blocked there. You CANNOT use zabasearch.com to find me!

Why the SacBee can't or won't do the same thing is pure BS.

What can I say, lunch time coma.

It is pretty hypocritical though... denying one's right to privacy is not exercising civil liberties.

What's hilarious is that you appear to be against prior restraint, yet against civil liberties. Is your name George W. Bush?

We're not mind readers - I think the vast majority of state employees didn't know or expect their information could or would be made public in this way. At the very least, I doubt anyone thought, going into state employment, "ok, my name, dept, class and salary will be added to a database and advertised in a newspaper so they can make money." I think some people are just now thinking, "it won't hurt me, so big whup."

And no, not all of this information is available to the public outside of the Bee's database. Capitol Weekly aside, though I'm sure the same would apply, you can have your information removed from the state employee telephone directory. You can also have your information removed from zabasearch. There is a lot you can do to protect yourself. You should be able to opt out of the SacBee's database. Other companies honor privacy, but now it's all about money. The Bee, literally, can't afford to honor any demands that might have an adverse affect on its advertising revenue.

I can understand the Bee's PRA request being honored if it were to be used in a true whistle blower fashion; however, I don't think they should be allowed to release all information to the public. The public can make their own PRA requests for the information. But there should be a legitimate reason. For example, labor unions can request payroll records from companies working on public works projects. But it has to be a legitimate request, meaning the average Joe can't make the request, and I'm almost 100% certain the information cannot be shared w/ the general public. Though, like state employees, pay scales have always been available, just not associated with an employee's name.

Rank and file workers have little to no impact on legislation or other important factors in how the state functions. They make so much less than those that were targeted in the Bee article. To put them in the database, as if it had any bearing on that article whatsoever, was pointless. Sure, find someone being paid in the high six figures, who gets a state car, uses a state credit card for personal expenses, and get reimbursed for travel from home. Then you have a story. This? As the editors stated, it's about traffic to their site, which equates to advertising revenue.

I guess I'm not as clairvoyant as you... I expected the same rights afforded to every other US citizen. But hey, maybe I should have asked you first.

No, I've never seen a Capitol Weekly newspaper and I'm sure 99% of those who used the SacBee's database haven't either. That's the point.

Their North Carolina house for sale here:

507 Devereux St
Raleigh NC 27605
Price: $569000
Beds: 3 beds
Baths: 2.5 baths
Square Footage: 2135.

Here's another source:
usa-people-search.com/

GROSHONG, MELANIE A
 Associated names:
 SILL, MELANIE A
   49     SOMERVILLE, MA
CPU OAK ISLAND, NC
OAK ISLAND, NC
RALEIGH, NC
   Available   Available   SILL, MELANTE A
GROSHONG, BENNETT ROSS (age 51)


    GROSHONG, BENNETT ROSS
 Associated names:
 GOSHONG, BENNETT
   50     LIVERMORE, CA
CARY, NC
CPU OAK ISLAND, NC
DURHAM, NC
OAK ISLAND, NC
RALEIGH, NC
   Available   Available   GROSHONG, J M
GROSHONG, MELANIE A (age 49)

Here's another picture of this horse-faced buffoon!


And another...


Probably the most flattering:

North Carolina residential information for Melanie and her husband(?)

MELANIE A SILL
DOB: Mar 1959
507 DEVEREUX ST
RALEIGH, NC 27605
919-828-6432

BENNETT R GROSHONG
DOB: Mar 1957
507 DEVEREUX ST
RALEIGH, NC 27605
919-828-6432

Source: PeopleData/ZabaSearch

More Sill family information:

ANNA LAURA ORR SILL, 77, of Modesto, Calif., formerly of Hawai'i, died Dec. 1, 2002. Longtime Waipahu High School foreign language teacher. Survived by husband, Charles; children, Charles, Alan, Janet Jimenez, Melanie Sill and Carolyn Glendening; nine grandchildren; one great-grandchild. Service held. Remembrances to Education Foundation, American Association of University Women, Modesto Branch, P.O. Box 4185, Modesto, CA 95352. Arrangements by Eaton Family Funeral and Cremation Service, Modesto.    [Adv 12/12/2002]

http://w2.byuh.edu/library/Obituaries/2002/S.htm

More information about Melanie Sill and her family from here:

Sill was born in Nebraska, raised in Hawaii and is a journalism graduate of UNC Chapel Hill. She also has Northern California roots: Her father lives in Modesto and she has sisters in Auburn and Novato. She is married to Bennett Groshong, a software developer and electrical engineer.

I just read that Melanie Sill lives in Elk Grove. I don't know the source, so it's not confirmed.

good activity here!

Has anyone checked out the birds eye mapping feature on live.com? I believe this is Ms. Hill's house when she lived in North Carolina up until a couple months ago...

Go here, click on Birds Eye, zoom in and click on East

Melanie Ann Sill
507 Devereux St
Raleigh, NC 27605-1501
(919) 828-6432

(The same info shows up for her husband's name)

Apparently Melanie Sill has changed the article several times on sacbee.com. Does anyone happen to have a copy of the original, or know what she has changed??

From another comment on sacbee.com:
You have changed & edited your four excuses for why the Bee posted this database at least twice & it's very obvious. Yesterday pm u added info about other states (those state's gov'ts are who posts the info, it's not posted by a tabloid newspaper such as the Bee) & again this am, it's a totally different article. In both yesterday's versions, your tone was very defensive & the facts u stated were inaccurate & not researched; this am, it appears like someone else with better writing & researching skills edited it for you & posted again. However, doesn't matter, yesterday's editorial is what did the most damage & just because you keep changing it (without acknowledging the change by updating the last posted by date which still shows 6:30 3/5/08 as last updated-ANOTHER LIE) doesn't mean you're going to get your subscribers back. Researching the facts NOW instead of BEFORE posting the story was very stupid on your part. Sorry, I don't read tabloid trash & that's what the Bee has become.

and another:
"In other states and counties, media organizations or other private companies have posted the information." This sentence is brand new. Either you have done extensive research overnight to get it or this is another untruth. Sorry, your history has proved you are not trustworthy. So you state the above, I ask that you prove it, name two other websites and provide links them just like you did to Georgia and Iowa - who, BTW, do not have a search engine based on individual names alone. One doesn't do names at all and the other does last names but only in connection with a specific department. Bad comparison on your part.