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Privacy916
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Sacramento Bee Public Editor Opinion!
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Public Editor Armando Acuna -
aacuna@sacbee.com
is now yet another target - your "public" information will be outed too!
His opinion piece is more kissing Melanie Sill's ass and slapping the faces of state workers. Here's the first part of his opinion piece... you can read the rest
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The Bee's posting last week of an online database making it easy to look up the salaries of state workers by name has made two things clear:
First, many state workers are irate, complaining it is an invasion of their privacy. Second, the database is wildly popular, with more than 2 million page views in just the first three days, setting a sacbee.com record by a quantum leap that's growing each day.
Beyond those two facts, though, there's little agreement.
Certainly for hundreds of state workers who called or e-mailed my office, nothing will suffice except the database's removal. Many workers were urged on by their unions.
The volume of e-mails was so heavy, it's a wonder the state's computer system didn't crash, since most came from state computers.
This is, after all, a company town, and that company is government, with 16 percent of the city's work force being state employees. They make up about 12 percent of all workers in our four-county region.
The reality is that the likelihood of The Bee taking down the database is nil.
Nor should it come down, in my opinion.
More broadly, given the paper's legal right to publish public records and the courts coming down on the side of transparency, the question posed by some state workers is whether The Bee should have published the database.
I think the answer is yes.
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Re: Sacramento Bee Public Editor Opinion!
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March 10, 2008, 11:16:29 AM »
There's two listings for Armando Acuna in Davis on
zabasearch
(not sure if either one are the same)
Armando Acuna
Sacramento Bee
Public Editor
2100 Q St
Sacramento CA 95816-6899 US
Phone: (916) 326-5573
Cell: (916) 321-1109
Fax:
http://www.sacbee.com
From:
http://armandoacuna9.lyro.com/
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March 10, 2008, 11:46:05 AM »
bachelor's degree, journalism
University of California , Berkeley
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March 10, 2008, 08:02:06 PM »
He is an arrogant prick
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March 10, 2008, 08:32:41 PM »
Yeah, these Bee people sure have a high degree of self-righteous arrogance. They keep behaving like it's some stand for the greater good when all they are really doing is picking on powerless individuals one person at a time. We're not The State. We're not The Union. We're just people living and working in this community who totally don't deserve this. It's very sad an disappointing to be subjected to this kind of treatment by a paper I just recently liked and valued.
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March 17, 2008, 10:24:48 AM »
This hack posted a new opinion piece where he kisses Melanie Sill's ass. It's so obvious that they keep bringing up this issue so they get more traffic to sacbee.com. It's freakin pathetic!!!
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March 17, 2008, 06:11:02 PM »
Wow! If you could just bottle up all of the anger and use it for something productive. From the tone of your comment I'm assuming that you are a state employee like myself. You knew from the day you were hired that NOTHING you worked on for the state was secret and neither was your salary. Have you ever seen a Capitol Weekly newspaper? They've been printing salaries for years. Names, salaries, and departments.
So all of you, stop the phoney outrage and put it to good use by identifying ways the state could save $8B so that you and I can keep our jobs and keep the state from goiing bankrupt.
JM
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March 18, 2008, 08:52:36 AM »
I guess I'm not as clairvoyant as you... I expected the same rights afforded to every other US citizen. But hey, maybe I should have asked you first.
No, I've never seen a Capitol Weekly newspaper and I'm sure 99% of those who used the SacBee's database haven't either. That's the point.
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March 18, 2008, 09:04:06 AM »
I don't understand -- are you saying that it's okay for public information to be public as long as it's only in an obscure source that few people read?
Also, what does clairvoyance have to do with being aware of a basic principle of public employment?
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March 18, 2008, 09:31:50 AM »
We're not mind readers - I think the vast majority of state employees didn't know or expect their information could or would be made public in this way. At the very least, I doubt anyone thought, going into state employment, "ok, my name, dept, class and salary will be added to a database and advertised in a newspaper so they can make money." I think some people are just now thinking, "it won't hurt me, so big whup."
And no, not all of this information is available to the public outside of the Bee's database. Capitol Weekly aside, though I'm sure the same would apply, you can have your information removed from the state employee telephone directory. You can also have your information removed from zabasearch. There is a lot you can do to protect yourself. You should be able to opt out of the SacBee's database. Other companies honor privacy, but now it's all about money. The Bee, literally, can't afford to honor any demands that might have an adverse affect on its advertising revenue.
I can understand the Bee's PRA request being honored if it were to be used in a true whistle blower fashion; however, I don't think they should be allowed to release all information to the public. The public can make their own PRA requests for the information. But there should be a legitimate reason. For example, labor unions can request payroll records from companies working on public works projects. But it has to be a legitimate request, meaning the average Joe can't make the request, and I'm almost 100% certain the information cannot be shared w/ the general public. Though, like state employees, pay scales have always been available, just not associated with an employee's name.
Rank and file workers have little to no impact on legislation or other important factors in how the state functions. They make so much less than those that were targeted in the Bee article. To put them in the database, as if it had any bearing on that article whatsoever, was pointless. Sure, find someone being paid in the high six figures, who gets a state car, uses a state credit card for personal expenses, and get reimbursed for travel from home. Then you have a story. This? As the editors stated, it's about traffic to their site, which equates to advertising revenue.
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March 18, 2008, 09:45:40 AM »
Amen!
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Wow. That's a sad commentary on California's education system. If the vast majority of state employees don't know that state records -- including their names and salaries -- are public information, someone needs to rethink the high school teaching plan. That's Basic Civics, not Basic Mindreading. And if the college-educated employees don't know the definition of prior restraint, then I fear for the future of the First Amendment.
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March 18, 2008, 11:58:11 AM »
What's hilarious is that you appear to be against prior restraint, yet against civil liberties. Is your name George W. Bush?
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March 18, 2008, 12:09:13 PM »
You've got that backward. The Bush administration seeks to exercise prior restraint by denying access to information based on specious arguments. I, on the other hand, believe that true exercise of civil liberties begins with open access to all public documents.
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March 18, 2008, 12:59:08 PM »
What can I say, lunch time coma.
It is pretty hypocritical though... denying one's right to privacy is not exercising civil liberties.
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